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Monday, January 30, 2012

Guest Blog: Jo Beverley: Let's Talk About Conflict in a Romance Novel.


People say that conflict is what makes a good read, and it's true, but sometimes people, including inexperienced authors, get the idea that conflict = war, fighting, and head-butting, and that isn't usually the case. I don't know about you, but I get bored of romances in which the main problem is that the hero and heroine just can't get along. I'm particularly irritated if the completely unreasonable one is the hero because I won't be far into the book before I'm muttering, "Just walk, lady. He's a thick-headed jerk and always will be."

Do you ever find yourself thinking that, or do you enjoy seeing the snarly duckling eventually turned into an amiable swan? That's another classic storyline, of course, so it's valid.

To flip the above comment about her walking, my husband has similar advice to most romance heroes. He sometimes helps me with my plot dilemmas, and as I lay out the situation he often says, "He needs to walk. That woman's nothing but trouble."

LOL! He's usually right, whether the wounds be mental, emotional, or physical, the guy would have had a quieter life if he'd never met her. "But," I say, "the rewards in the end make it all worth it."

He's not convinced. "You don't want to meet any of these men in a dark alley," he warns.

But back to conflict. Sometimes the hero and heroine will have strongly opposing views on an important subject, so there will be arguments, but arguments alone don't take a novel very far. Sometimes they're on opposite sides in a fight, be it a family feud or intergalactic war, and that makes for powerful barriers to their happiness. The novel usually works because they are both working to overcome those barriers rather than just shooting at each other.

And that is the key term -- barriers. Conflict in a novel is the stuff that gets between the character and his or her goal. In a romance some of the barriers will be between the couple and their future happiness, and for me as a reader it better not just be head-butting, but that could be because my idea of a wonderful relationships is one mostly of agreement.

We readers don't all love and hate the same books, thank heavens, and so it's good there's something for everyone in romance novels.

There's hardly any fighting between my hero and heroine in A Scandalous Countess, but they have all kinds of barriers to overcome.

Superficially, they're a bad match.

Lord Dracy was until recently in the navy and he has no experience with or interest in fashionable, courtly London society. Now he's inherited an impoverished barony he's duty bound to put all his efforts into restoring his country estate to prosperity.

Georgia, dowager Countess of Maybury (and she hates that "dowager", being only 20) has lived three years as a wealthy, fashionable London lady, a darling of society. It's her world. Her husband's death and the scandal surrounding it have taking that life from her and her chief goal is to get it back. The obvious way is to marry a rich, highly-titled, Town-loving gentleman. She positively dislikes country living.

A horse race brings them together -- and they like each other. They spar a bit, but both recognize that unexpectedly and undesirably, they've found a friend.

Perhaps you can see how that is a new barrier. Dracy wants the best for his friend, and he's not it. Georgia values this new friend, but she sees the danger that he might fall in love with her and she can't break a friend's heart.

The reviving scandal and the machinations of an enemy both push them closer and challenge their plans, and thus a novel grows. You can read their first encounter on my web site here.
http://www.jobev.com/ascancexc.html

The reviews thus far are excellent, and A Scandalous Countess is a top pick from Romantic Times. I hope you enjoy it. I'll give a signed copy of the previous countess book, An Unlikely Countess, to a random pick from comments here about conflict and barriers in romance novels. I'll choose someone at midnight EST, 1 February.

Oh, and lastly, my publisher has produced a short video of me talking about the book. Americans seem to enjoy my English accent. http://youtu.be/V149m0JXGck

Happy reading always!

Jo

Jo Beverley has an Author's page at: http://www.romancebooksrus.com. Come and visit the website!

BLURB:
Georgia, Countess of Maybury has it all, but then her husband is killed in a duel and she loses her homes, most of her possessions, and her reputation as well. Innocent of all charges, she returns to the beau monde determined to regain all through a second brilliant marriage, but a scarred ex-naval officer threatens to tempt her in a different direction.

BIO:
Jo Beverley is one the few authors writing English-set historical romance who is English. She was born and raised in England, and has a degree in English history from Keele University in Staffordshire. She and her husband emigrated to Canada, but have now returned to England. They have two sons.

Though Jo started to write as a young child, it was only in the eighties that she began to think that it was something ordinary people could do, and after a talk at a local library, she settled to seriously writing her first historical romance.

Now, she is the author of over thirty romance novels and many novellas -- see Jo Beverley's booklist which have brought her many awards, including five RITA awards from the Romance Writers of America and awards from Romantic Times including two Career Achievement awards. She is a member of the RWA Honor Roll, and the RWA Hall of Fame.

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Raven McAllan said...

To me a conflict can be something momentous- War, infidelity- or something small and insignificant-doesn't like your perfume/dress/budgie...-as long as it makes me as a reader sit up and think Hmmm- how will they sort this out?
AS a writer, it has to be something i can see would cause problems. Then i have to try and sort it out! (opposite sides of the coin I guess)
BTW for my two-pennorth, anyone reading the rogue series by Jo Beverly, will see superb conflicts, and great conflict solving. I LOVE them.

Liz said...

well said Jo. I will say that for me, I like to see a couple do a little verbal sparring and will admit that internal barriers to happiness (resistance because of previously broken hearts or other baggage) is a device I use a lot. To be able to create that realistically and sustain it is a challenge and many writers do it well. I am not a huge fan of historical or fantasy romance though which to my mind has better opportunity for external conflicts (things like "social status" don't work in contemporary THAT well although those conflicts do still exist and fantasy allows to you create all sorts of external issues in world building) but I'm going to pick up a few of them (regency/fantasy/sci fi) to go outside my "usual" as I ponder writing a paranormal time travel project. Sounds like yours will be a great place to start. congrats to you on all your successes and thanks for taking the time to share with us today.

Tina Donahue said...

I agree completely with your take on conflict - reasonable conflict born of deep emotion - rather than the hero being a jerk or the heroine being prickly/prissy. During the 'bodice ripper' era I read too many books where the lovers fought so much I gave up in despair.

Don't know if you've seen Hell on Wheels, but the conflict there is excellent. I feel the hero's pain and his reluctance to bond with anyone again, including Lily. Can't wait to see how that turns out. :)

Maria said...

Great post! I already have both of these books so don't enter me in the contest for the book. I have to agree, I don't mind some verbal sparring but there are situations where it's clear from the beginning the conflict is too much to overcome. I really enjoyed both An Unlikely Countess and A Scandalous Countess

TessStJohn said...

Great post...I do hate it when the h/h fight the entire novel (some angst needs to be between them, but not all the time) then suddenly end up in bed...to me that's not realistic, but for me love is not an emotion...it's an action.

R. Ann Siracusa said...

Your article clarifies the problem of internal v.s. external conflict. In my own writing, I have trouble separating the two, since a person's values are usually molded by external events (present and past) involving deep emotions. Everyone carries "baggage" of one sort or another. Making that work in a novel can be tricky.

Diana Layne said...

Jo, your books are always delightful! I'm sure A Scandalous Countess is well worth the top pick! And in reference to your bio, I was the same way, it took me forever to realize "normal" people can write books.

Lynne said...

I love your books. conflict add a bit of something - It would be rather boring if the book has the guy and gal meet and have no issues at all - would be a short read! I loved An Unlikely Countess!

thanks for the chance to win one of your books

fingershankins@yahoo.com

Jo Beverley said...

I'm glad you all seem to agree with me! Conflict is a tricky area, however, because too little will make a book weak. Also the reader has to buy into it.

In A Scandalous Countess I wanted modern readers to understand Georgia's conviction that to marry a baron would be marrying down after being a countess, so I reflected it through her maid's angle.

Servants took the status of their employer, even often being addressed by their title. So in the servants' hall, the maid would have to give way to maids who'd previously been of lower rank to her. Seating at table and such.

If the characters are making a big deal of something and most readers are thinking it's a fuss over nothing, it's not a good thing!

Jo

Eli Yanti said...

conflict will increasing a little tenstion in reading so it's sometimes necessary in a book ;)

eli_y83@yahoo.com

Paty Jager said...

I agree conflict can't come from just bickering that would be a boring book. But when the conflict is emotional it makes for a strong read. Thank you for a thought provoking blog, Jo.

Chrisbails said...

I love conflict in a book. I love to see how people react to it. I sometimes put myself in the situation when I am reading. I love to see the hero/heroine hating the person and then falling in love with them and then trying to fight it. I love that conflict and then find that they are completely drawn to each other.
Love Jo's books and would love to win and read this one. Thanks for the chance to win. christinebails@yahoo.com

Adele Dubois said...

Well said! I couldn't agree more about how silly arguments and pointless bickering between a hero and heroine creates weak conflict and a boring, annoying plot. I've been disappointed by how often that plot device has been used in the books I've read.

Thanks so much for visiting with us. Best wishes for your continued success!

~Adele

Patricia said...

Jo, nice post about conflict. Yes, I get bored with the same old conflict between hero and heroine. I like it more when there is a barrier for them to overcome so that they can be together instead of the constant boring arguing between the two of them. But everyone has their preferences.
Patti

JL Walters said...

Great post. Conflict needs to have two sides and the attraction must be mutual. Have all your books on my Keeper shelf. Will read the new one with pleasure.

P McCrillis said...

Verbal sparring can be fun to read- in small doses- but if there is too much I think, why bother? These people obviously don't like each other so move on. When conflict is between characters I care about, it's hard for me to read. And write. I know the tension that evolves from conflict is necessary and realistic but I don't like having my characters angry or at odds with each other. I enjoyed Ms. Beverley's video enough to make a comment and start my own UTube channel, a first for me. Can't wait to read A Scandalous Countess!

jean hart stewart said...

Loved the blog and the video. A book without conflict is nothing, but please, not one that's over-manufactured. Gotta be believable, and drag the reader in. You always do that so well, Jo.

www.judyridgley.com said...

Jo, This sounds wonderful and I totally agree that constant headbutting does get boring. Fortuantly we don't have that problem in your books. And the horseracing part intriges me.
J
http://www.jridgley.wordpress.com
Stop by for a visit.

D'Ann said...

great post!

SusannahC said...

Jo, like you, I don't like constant arguing or head-butting, although a little arguing is okay--and realistic. The conflict, whatever it is, should make the reader wonder how the hero and heroine will resolve their differences.
One of the things I most admire about your Rogue and Malloren books is the conflicts.

Cara Marsi said...

Jo, thank you for your insightful comments on conflict. I learned a lot from you today. Of course, you don't remember but I met you at a conference once. It was either NJRW or National. You sat at a table with my friend and me. And yes, we loved your accent. Your books sounds terrific, as usual.

Janice Seagraves said...

Conflict moves a story, I totally agree. In my first published book my conflict is the deserted island my couple finds themselves on as they struggle to survive and the meat eating pigs that chase them around. Also the conflict of their attraction.

Janice~

Paris said...

I love that the conflict arises from the fact that they do care for one another. Your excerpt was wonderful and I'm definitely adding this book to my TBR list!

Grace said...

Jo, you've written eloquently on a topic I will be including this Saturday when giving advice to my chapter's contest judges. My notes read: "Conflict is not 'bickering' between the hero and the heroine." Thanks for giving me great ammunition to back up my point.

Jane Toombs said...

Hi Jo: Good blog about heroines. With the proliferation of erotica sometimes I feel writers lose track of the fact the heroine also has a brain. But you've never been guilty of that, which is one of the reasons I've always enjoyed your books. Jane

Harlie Reader said...

Great post Jo and I totally agree. We deal every day with some kind of conflict in our lives; some we know about and some that we don't. I think for a book to have any merit, there should be conflict. Myself, I like the internal conflict between the characters.

Marika Weber

Harlie Reader said...

Also, I like verbal sparring but sometimes I just want the h/h to sit down and have an intelligent conversation about their feelings and emotions.

Marika

Kenzie Michaels said...

Sometimes I just want to lock the hero and heroine in a closet until they either kill each other or TALK to each other! That 'I-won't-tell-you-because-I-think-you-should-already-know-or-don't-need-to-know' crap drives me crazy!

Cynthia Arsuaga said...

Gosh Jo, I don't know what else I can add to all the other great comments, but I agree conflict between the H/h has to be a fine balance between internal conflicts, their conflicts and other barriers preventing or forcing them to be together in the end. I'm new at writing and still learning to walk that tightrope. Thanks for stopping by today and giving us some insight into your world of writing. We here at RBRU appreciate it.

Sandy said...

Welcome, Jo. It's great to see you here.

I believe in having real barriers to a relationship not manufactured ones.

Julia Phillips Smith said...

Getting the right mix of story conflict is like being able to tune an instrument by ear. Just have to develop a feel for it.

Charlene Roberts said...

Ms. Beverley, I remember you giving a presentation at the Toronro Romance Writer's group, oh quite awhile ago. I also remember how friendly and approachable you were!

I love the conflict of stubbornness; not in a nasty way, but a "I've always done it this way", kind. When done correctly, you have 2 people who grudgingly like each other, but can't sway from their old habits. But that one word "compromise" can do wonders for a relationship, especially if both sides see and accept it. It shows a maturity that I love seeing!

Then you add it in an Engligh historical or *gulp!* Regency, where impeccable manners are mandatory, then you see some sparks! lol

Charlene

Renee Vincent said...

Great to see you here, Jo Beverley! I love historicals and yours sound great! I can't wait to read this one!!!

Thanks for dropping by the RBRU blog and sharing your time with us. We know you are super busy but we so appreciate you being here. Thanks so much!!

Debby said...

Great post! I have seen conflicts where I finally wanted to just throw the book. I like the term barriers better.
Debby236 at gmail dot com

Juli Alexander said...

Excellent points on conflict. I adore your work, and I'm glad to take away some advice from a true master of conflict.

LKF said...

great post and thank you for the opportunity to win. I love conflict, but like the others said not all the way through. Do the sparring, find a resolution and either walk away and run together. I become involved in the stories I read and love the happy ending.
Plan on reading your story weather I win or not, it sounds great. :}
lyndakayefrazier@yahoo.com

Jo Beverley said...

More great comments! Good thought about them being able to talk about their problems. I don't always do this consciously, but one of my tests of the conflicts/barriers is that they should be able to talk about the problems without the problems evaporating.

Jo

Deb Sanders said...

Great post. I agree with conflict spanning more than angst between H/H. Your book sounds wonderful. Can't wait to read it!

Katalina said...

I loved the Rouge series.
Jo you are so poised in your book trail!
XXOO Kat

Kathy Otten said...

Love your books! I don't mind a bit of bickering between the H/h, but certainly not through the whole book. And on the flip side I don't like books where they both get along perfectly and always have happy love making while they face whatever trials or villians the author put in front of them. I like tension between the H/h and individual character growth woven through the plot layers.
You're also lucky that your husband helps you out.

Annie Parnell said...

Okay, I am a Yank, and yes, I do love to hear you talk Jo--so sue me. As to conflict and barriers in romance novels, I know I am in trouble with a book when I start to look for quotation marks--that is a sure sign to me that the conflict level is sliding or has dropped to such a low level that I am nearly comatose and ready to turn out the light. I have a fondness for smart women who use their brains and courage to push the walls of convention back a few meters and who are matched with men who realize their worth (not at first of course or there wouldn't be any book). My keeper shelf is populated with such books as "Dark Champion" by Jo Bev, "Mr. Impossible" by L. Chase, "Uncommon Vows" by MJ Putney, & "It had to be You" by SEP. Thank you for taking up the pen, Jo. You have inspired me to write (although at present not pubb'd) and you have filled many hours of my life with much joy, wit, and a good laugh.

Marianne Stephens said...

Thanks to all who commented about Jo's blog. And, a big "thank you" to Jo!
Winner of her book giveaway:
Paris Brandon

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